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how to draw female comic characters (according to Wizard)...

brown_betty asked for examples "to illustrate the exactly how and why female comic characters are illustrated differently than the male." And I thought, really, what's better to illustrate these things than the books teaching the style in the first place?

A while ago I posted some scans from Wizard How To Draw series on drawing female superheroes (here and here), and I thought I'd post a bunch more from the first book of the series on "How To Draw: Heroic Anatomy".

There's 19 large page scans behind the cut...Collapse )

ETA (11 April 2010): Thanks to LJ's new comment option I can now freeze the post without deleting previous comments. I'm sorry I'll be missing out on some interesting comments, but I'm sick of getting offensive, sexist drivel dumped in my journal in a years old post.
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If I recall, posting scans from a book one normally has to purchase is a violation of copy-right law.
As an artist this was enormously helpful. Thanks.

Also, I think it's pretty funny that so very many people are getting worked up at how "bad" some of these parts are when the vast majority of them aren't even artists. Furthermore, most of them have livejournals they update frequently covered in sub-par comic book art--worse than most of the images presented here--and never see a woman anked except on their monitors. Oh the irony. <33
I found your site whilst looking up marvel information.
It's been very helpful and I added you as a friend.

:-)
Thank you!

-Lauren
welcome, and thanks for reading and commenting. You should know though that I don't post all that frequently about comics at the moment, and am more of a DC than a Marvel fan (though kind of lost with the irongoing Crisis-That-Never-Ends). I really only read Daredevil and Amazing Spider-Man regularly among the Marvel titles. Well, and Astonishing X-Men, but that seems to come out only once every blue moon.
It's an old post, but I felt the need to comment after reading the comments.

The funny thing is that the fat Scarlet Witch is actually sort of drawn in an appealing way. (if you ignore the cans and chicken leg). She'd be a pretty interesting character to have, I think.

I guess the whole point of the argument that some don't understand is, to summarize: We understand the conventions, and there's nothing wrong with a little fanservice. However, fanservice is a side helping to a greater main dish. When it comes to mainstream comics, the kind of comic considered the "regular" comic, the one trying to appeal to a wider audience, fanservice should be the cherry on top, not the (contorted) backbone of female characters and the only thing to draw people in. It makes a quick buck, but it takes away credibility. Do superheroes need credibility? Well, how many people would be proud to say they're fans of comics created for a target demographic of pubescent horny boys? Sounds like something one "should" outgrow. Think about how fast kids reject any association with their once-beloved Barney when they're older, never to return. I remember feeling such a violent need to disassociate, but I don't remember that being the case for Sesame Street (though, it's more saccharine now than when I was younger, so times may have changed).

And that's my big post that's too late for anyone to read.
*applaud* Exactly. Thank you.

That is all.

mogumogu

10 years ago

mulato1

10 years ago

rurouniidoru

10 years ago

hsavinien

10 years ago

Jim Balent's style utterly confuses me. Why aren't her feet proportionate to the rest of her? The poor thing looks like she's going to topple right over. :/
Well, considering that there's a 90° angle bend in the wrong direction in the spine, I guess the feet are the least of her problems, balance wise...

theartema

10 years ago

Whoa, hello trolls.

Anyways, thanks for scanning these. The immense irony of putting Mystique in a sexy, sultry, sort-of-submissive pose and then saying that she has a great personality makes me laugh (and kind of want to cry).
Yeah, very true. I mean, if someone gets off on out of character Mystique porn that's fine, I have odd porn kinks too, I just wish it wouldn't be done in the comics that are supposed to be primarily action-adventure superhero tales and such. So even besides the whole misogyny issues, I think eye candy and such should be only added where it actually fits unless you do porn where it fits everywhere of course.

I even get annoyed by this when they do it with stuff that I *appreciate* in porn. I mean, e.g. I found it completely annoying when they put a dog collar on Flash in a splash panel when nowhere in the actual story does he wear one, also in another issue far more elaborate chains than there were in the actual story. It was some sort of gratuitous bondage pictures. I was totally WTF? despite finding Flash in chins kind of pretty. Of course I find it worse with things that visually annoy me in the first place.

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Anonymous

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Anonymous

April 9 2008, 03:02:56 UTC 10 years ago

Wait.... HUH?! You're telling me that those enormous, truck-sized, bulging, MASSIVE guys, are "realistic and believable"?! Er... have you been taking drugs recently, Mr. Sears? o.0
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Anonymous

April 10 2008, 01:55:46 UTC 10 years ago

Thanks for posting the scans. I love comic book and fantasy art.
Ratcreature no one gives a shit how many posts you "freeze" because of your dislikes of the topic and what you care to discuss. If you want to enforce then buy your own web space, until then, eat these comments. The arguable facts and opinions is what gave the original post the many replies and its interesting response. Who gives a fuck what you care to discuss. This is a public area despite of what you may think. People have different opinions about different things and in no way did i even take anything that was said to oppose my view personal. Nor do i believe those that opposed my views took anything i said personal. If they did then they are a big of a loser as yourself. Your false sense of power in these bullshit posts is as ineffective as your original cry or rant of what a so called horror it is to draw or view comic drawing such as this. In other words what im trying to say is.....who gives a shit....
PS I graduated high school in Europe.....

Original message....................

Besides the total off-topic fact that visible body hair on women is in no way universally considered "extreme" (like say where I live it is really quite common not shave anything), nor is make-up default (you see at least as many women without make-up than with), and your weird "eww" reaction to either probably means you ought to avoid holidays in largish parts of Europe lest you be squicked constantly, I really don't care to have personal hygiene discussions and threads with trading of insults going on in my LJ months after this post was even current. So consider this the moderation notice, and this thread now frozen.
i hope you show a more detailed tutorial soon

i need help

Anonymous

April 27 2008, 04:53:17 UTC 10 years ago

im hoping to do my own comic one day,but i cant draw nuthing straight the eyes ,arms,legs,muscles,trsos.im having difficulties T_T.HELP!!! plz
And I'm supposed to help you how...? Asking random stangers on the internet (with nearly incomprehensible spelling no less) to teach you how to draw is a really bizarre way to go about learning. Maybe you should take some drawing classes? Or pick up one of the gazillion books on the subject and follow their exercises? Or just practice until you get better.
all those people posting about how these woman are 'unrealistic'and the men are 'oversized in muscles' ect.....this is a comic and fiction of course this is not going to be anything like real life, if you want that in a picture, try the museum. so get over all your 'i'm so shocked as this is offensive to the female image' talk.

what i also would like to say that this was extreamly helpful. i am recently very interested in comics and this was helpful in showing me how to put some of my own ideas on to paper. expecially helpful in drawing the female figure which is hard if you are a novice in drawing.
Appreciate it for what it is: A good guide for people trying to learn better techniques rather than complaining about offensive "subtext" that you're all too stupid to see beyond because you yourselves are so ingrained in the same chauvinistic, double-standard, hypocritical culture you're blaming these people for that you can't see how you're the ones creating the offensive subtext, and not the artists above.
Wow. And the sound of one hand clapping is?
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